Unweaving the Trinity

Presented by Noel Rude at the One God Conference, Seattle WA May 31st 2008, commentary by John Obelenus.

Noel continues to work backwards in his research on the Trinity. First we question the Trinity, and the spirit seems to definitively not be a person. What about binitarianism? We see that Jesus is not God either. Arianism? Jesus is not a divine figure, but rather a human being. Noel continues to wonder about the virgin birth, as he suggests it is the first Christological heresy.

He notes the prophecy in Isaiah is not ‘virgin’ but ‘young woman’, and that it is also fulfilled in Hezekiah’s time. Yet, both gospels that contain birth narratives (Matthew and Luke) both focus on this virgin birth. Yet the rest of the New Testament never mentions it. Furthermore the Ebionites’ gospel book did not contain the virgin birth, and the Jewish group rejected that idea. Their gospel has not survived, but Eusebius’ church history tells us about it. Noel also mentions that the Greek leaders of the time were all, after their death, said to be virginal begettings. Yet Matthew remains the most distinctly Jewish of the four gospels.
He puts his finger squarely on the resurrection as the central focus, climax, and origins of the Christian way that we must cling to, and lean squarely on.

2 Responses to “Unweaving the Trinity”

  1. on 04 Jun 2008 at 9:28 amKarl

    Hi Sean,

    Will this presentation and some of others that are not available yet be made available to listen to in mp3 format?

  2. on 04 Jun 2008 at 9:31 amSean

    unfortunately we do not have recordings for several of the presentations from the first day. however they were recorded on video tape and can be ordered directly from Ken Westby’s organization. www.godward.org

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